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Kaelik wrote: I would certainly be okay with Equal Protection shoving it down their face, but that's a lot less likely than what is just as good, the courts shoving full faith and credit up the ass of California Constitution.

California will pass gay marriage before Full Faith and Credit becomes an issue, and likely before Equal Protection implemented in a sane way.

Neeeek wrote:California will pass gay marriage before Full Faith and Credit becomes an issue, and likely before Equal Protection implemented in a sane way.

Uh... That's pretty much exactly what I just said.

Unless you think I was asserting that California is not one of the 20 most liberal states in the US?

Still people mis the main reason why Obama doesn't deserve it for anything he has done....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPkgC-mPO9c

Nobel committee...

wants to endorse and enhance Obama's policies

Not for anything he HAS done, but what they hope he might do.

The Nobel committee admit it themselves it isn't for anything Obama has done. THAT is my gripe. It had nothing to do with peace, and everything to do with politics and promises.

Watch anywhere and you will see people confused, even those in Harlem or Chicago confused why he won it, and didn't understand why; but proud he/we did.

Again the cited reason from many why they are confused why he won a peace prize...he is conducting 2 wars.

Think people. That is what the poor school system was for to teach you how to, not just shove useless information into your heads to store and never put to use.

He has done nothing for it, but the hopes he does do something is why he won it, as per the Nobel committee. You want to argue with me, so be it, but you also want to argue with the ones who gave him the award as to why he got it? You need help.

FrankTrollman wrote:I agree. It feels very wrong to Americans, because his domestic issues are currently still stuck in legislative limbo.

No, Frank, that is not the reason. The biggest problem is that all of his “issues” are either outright lies or deliberately stuck in limbo because of his desire or his incompetence. The only thing that Barack Obama is good at is being a Snake Oil Salesman / Chicago Politician. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

I know you have this bizarre hatred towards all things Bush, and apparently a love for all things Russian, but if the only element of “peace” you can think of is when Obama “blinked” and left all of Europe defenseless to a nuclear attack from the hands of Iranian Holocaust Deniers (made part by a grant from the Putin Empire, who by the way is at least two levels of crooked politician above the crappy Chicago community organizer) then all I can say is that you’re the Looney one.

Where is the “peace” Frank? We’ve got the American Neville Chamberlain saying all this bullshit about reducing nuclear arms while the loonies take over the nuclear club; North Korea has nukes, Iran will soon get nukes, and soon the Taliban will take over Pakistan and get nukes as well.

As much as I hate Jimmy Carter, at least he managed to get two opposing sides to talk to each other; this bozo has done nothing! Sure he deserves the award for flagellating your own nation’s history and honor, while at the same time tooting your own horn and kissing asses of people who are, in general, lower than shit (at best) and people who should be lined up against the wall and shot for crimes against humanity (at worst). I don’t know what that award is (The P.T. Barnum Award for finding the most suckers?) but it ain’t peace. No fucking way in hell.

FrankTrollman wrote:Yes. He got China and Russia to agree to co-sponsor a declaration of intent to protect Japan in the event of North Korean aggression. So yes, Japan is pretty damn safe right now, because North Korea no longer has any allies.

Frank, are you really that dense? He didn’t do a damn thing. He didn’t need to do a damn thing. It’s all fun and games until suddenly they realized that it was a real possibility that Japan would go nuclear in response to a nuclear North Korea. Japan is a wonderful little nation, but beneath a very thin veneer is a nation very much in denial of their past and laced with the seeds of Second World War imperialism that could blossom at any moment if given enough water. (Japan is, by the way one of the biggest hotbeds of anti-Semitism in the world in spite of the fact that there are so few Jews in Japan as to be practically non existent; even then most Japanese wouldn’t recognize a Jew if they saw one.) Both China and Russia have vested interests in keeping Japan from going into the nuclear club; the national war wounds are still deep for both of them.

Oh look Shadazar, you just quoted Americans not knowing why he was given an award by Norwegians again.

Can you point to any Norwegians who are confused at why he won the award?

And then you go a step further and claim that you are sole and best arbiter for who deserves a Nobel Peace Prize and for what reasons. Apparently you have decided that the Nobel Committee is incapable of developing their own standards.

Hey fucker. They gave one to Henry Kissinger. Obviously 'having never been involved in any war ever' is not a prerequisite to getting the Nobel. Maybe it has other shit, like balancing what could actually be expected of him (by a sane person, IE not you) versus actual actions.

Or maybe it's just that he did one good thing, and they want to reward it as incentive for him to do more of that and less of the other stuff.

But sure, keep railing about how he's involved in two wars for 9 months that it is basically physically impossible for him to have removed the country from in that time. And talking about how Americans disagree with Norwegians about shit that has nothing to do with them.


EDIT: Oh good, the Crazy magentically attracted the other crazy. Now Tzor is filling this thread bullshit claims about Obama selling Snake Oil, even though he still can't ever actually point to something specific, then following up that claim with the assertion that not pointing nuclear weapons at each other and threatening to blow stuff up is somehow letting the Terrorists win.

Still so many stupid people claiming Obama has done something to earn the award when they fail to view the video stating he hasn't done anything, and they are just giving him the award to promote progress of others towards his ideas.

So Obama was the first to say we need to get rid of nuclear weapons? It wasn't his idea to begin with.

Some people are just so caught up in their religion of Obama worship, they cannot see past their nose.

He hasn't done anything, and they say so! It was not an award given for any accomplishment, but to promote his views.

Also try learning to read as well Cowlick (Kaelik), cause you continuously misspell my name when all you need to do is copy and paste it from any of the existing posts. Your inability to read may be the cause of your not understanding why Obama got the award anyway though.

But everyone keep trying to skirt the issue that the Nobel committee themselves explained why he got the award, since you all know better than them why is was awarded, and try to turn it into discussions of everything else. It has been stated he didn't do anything to earn it. It has been proven by the people that awarded it to him, but keep throwing a temper tantrum like a child because you want to live in a fantasy world, rather than listen the the facts, FROM THE VERY PEOPLE WHO GIVE OUT THE AWARD!

WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPkgC-mPO9c

Kaelik wrote: But sure, keep railing about how he's involved in two wars for 9 months that it is basically physically impossible for him to have removed the country from in that time.

Well let's be fair, Kaelik, Obama DID start those wars so it IS entirely his fault.

Oh wait...

I had to read that twice, thinking "WTF?", before I caught your "Oh wait..."

Koumei wrote:

Kaelik wrote: But sure, keep railing about how he's involved in two wars for 9 months that it is basically physically impossible for him to have removed the country from in that time.

Well let's be fair, Kaelik, Obama DID start those wars so it IS entirely his fault.

Oh wait...

Yeah, because the commander of the US armed forces cannot just say, get your ass home, and let them deal with it themselves, and stop spending billions on Blackwater that could be better served to be spent on US soil.

US President doesn't have the power to place or remove US troops from anywhere in the world

9 months to sign his name to an executive order to pull out.

Right, so hypothetical situation: I take some taipans and throw them into the Vatican. They bite some people and kill them, FOR JESUS! Possibly the Catholic Ninjas start fighting back or whatever. Now, tell me what happens if, now that I've really pissed the Pope off, I run in there, gather up all these pet snakes and go home? Does the pope let me wander out with these snakes, or does he in fact have me killed?

shadzar wrote:Still so many stupid people claiming Obama has done something to earn the award when they fail to view the video stating he hasn't done anything, and they are just giving him the award to promote progress of others towards his ideas.

You say this as if it matters and we should care. The Norwegians gave Obama the peace prize as an incentive for things he's working towards. We know this. SO FUCKING WHAT?

I know there are so many stupid people with a hate-on for Obama; but seriously, go find some more threatening windmills to tilt at.

violence in the media wrote:

shadzar wrote:Still so many stupid people claiming Obama has done something to earn the award when they fail to view the video stating he hasn't done anything, and they are just giving him the award to promote progress of others towards his ideas.

You say this as if it matters and we should care. The Norwegians gave Obama the peace prize as an incentive for things he's working towards. We know this. SO FUCKING WHAT?

I know there are so many stupid people with a hate-on for Obama; but seriously, go find some more threatening windmills to tilt at.

I voted for the fucker! I don't hate him, I just want to see him do something finally.

I am just tired of hearing people claim he has done something and that is why he got it for his actions, but the committee themselves state otherwise as to the reason that it was awarded to him.

He so far has been weak and in no way a leader for this country and instead getting lead by everyone else. It depresses me voted in someone to be a puppet for the left-overs of the former Bush administration.

That is what I am so pissed at him for. Having two daughters mysteriously when he has no balls!

Like that redneck on the blue comedy show says: "Get'r Done!"

shadzar wrote:Still so many stupid people claiming Obama has done something to earn the award when they fail to view the video stating he hasn't done anything, and they are just giving him the award to promote progress of others towards his ideas.

No, no one is really claiming that he did anything, and in fact, not a single person has even claimed he deserved the award.

Just people pointing out how retarded you are for gay bashing and bitching about wars that he didn't promise to end in nine months and bitching about how Americans don't think he did anything, as if Americans know jack shit about Nobel Peace Prizes, which you fucking demonstrate, by ignoring the fact that the Prize is often given out as encouragement.

shadzar wrote:So Obama was the first to say we need to get rid of nuclear weapons? It wasn't his idea to begin with.

He negotiated an end to a situation. It doesn't matter if John Smith from California was the first person to say "People should not be threatening to blow up London!" John Smith had nothing to do with the resolution. Obama did.

shadzar wrote:Some people are just so caught up in their religion of Obama worship, they cannot see past their nose.

Wow, classic right wing tactic. When you are so obviously wrong about something, start claiming that people who have specifically said he doesn't deserve the award are just worshiping him.

Later maybe you can tell us about how Clinton's Surplus was the result of Reaganomics, and Bush's Deficit was Clinton's fault?

In the mean time, those of us who didn't vote for him are not in fact worshiping him.

shadzar wrote:Also try learning to read as well Cowlick (Kaelik), cause you continuously misspell my name when all you need to do is copy and paste it from any of the existing posts. Your inability to read may be the cause of your not understanding why Obama got the award anyway though.

Actually, it's intentional, because you are one of the idiots who calls me Caelic/Caelik/Kaelic all the time, so I don't give a fuck how your name is spelled, because as far as I'm concerned, it's "Shithead"

RC and Venereal Disease get the same treatment, when I bother to spell out their names.

tzor wrote:No, Frank, that is not the reason. The biggest problem is that all of his “issues” are either outright lies or deliberately stuck in limbo because of his desire or his incompetence. The only thing that Barack Obama is good at is being a Snake Oil Salesman / Chicago Politician. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

You ever notice none of this is actually sourced?

Holy crap, where the news in this thread? It's just been a whole page of name calling against the current Administration.

Kaelik wrote:Just people pointing out how retarded you are for gay bashing

With this statement you have proven you cannot read.

Gay bashing, telling people to stop worried about who gives it to who up the ass? No. I mean stop worrying about who is or isn't gay, and get back to the real issues, and realize it isn't your business or concern who is gay or not. They have a right to exist just as everyone else. But you seem to miss that where I called out that they need to drop the gay anything as if it matters, and get back to things important to everyone, unless they are so afraid of being propositioned by someone of the same sex.

Learn to read. But like everything else, the word gay for many means stop thinking about anything else and focus on it. Stop everything you are doing and stare at the two guys in the room holding hands. Instead of worrying about who someone else is fucking, worry more about doing your job right, which is governing the country and making it a decent place for ALL to live, not just the hetero homophobes form the red states.

NEW

North Korea launches 5 more missiles after agreeing to come back to the table, and warns that all the waters around it are a no-sail zone until Oct 20.

So you want to go back and talk and then the next day fire off 5 more missiles?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 302841.stm

India also tested a missile that is capable of yielding nuclear warheads as well.....

shadzar wrote:

Kaelik wrote:Just people pointing out how retarded you are for gay bashing

With this statement you have proven you cannot read.

Gay bashing, telling people to stop worried about who gives it to who up the ass? No. I mean stop worrying about who is or isn't gay, and get back to the real issues, and realize it isn't your business or concern who is gay or not. They have a right to exist just as everyone else. But you seem to miss that where I called out that they need to drop the gay anything as if it matters, and get back to things important to everyone, unless they are so afraid of being propositioned by someone of the same sex.

Learn to read. But like everything else, the word gay for many means stop thinking about anything else and focus on it. Stop everything you are doing and stare at the two guys in the room holding hands. Instead of worrying about who someone else is fucking, worry more about doing your job right, which is governing the country and making it a decent place for ALL to live, not just the hetero homophobes form the red states.

You are the one who took time out of your day to yell at us, people who said exactly nothing about gays, and the Nobel Committee, about how gays need to shut up and stop campaigning for their rights.

You are clearly the one with the huge Gay on that makes you bring it up for no reason at all, and blather on about it where it doesn't apply.

Yes you did not technically complain about gay people being gay, only about seeking rights under the law.

So as long as those gays don't get uppity, you are okay with them.

Yeah, now go say that about blacks and see if it sounds racist.

Gay people have every right to seek the passage of laws by congress within their power. And for you to bring up the fact that they are doing that, in a totally unrelated discussion solely to deride them for doing that is exactly the type of thing you should be criticized for.

You are a damn fool, and I don't care if you hate gays or not. You are a damn fool for even bringing it up when it is completely unrelated to anything at all, and then advocating a fundamentally stupid position.

Although, Kaelik, it was the news of the day that some NBC notable stirred up the queer rights community with an unsourced out of context insult of them.

Still, I would like to point out that it is pretty important to me that DOMA gets repealed. My household pays on average more than six thousand dollars in federal taxes vs a heterosexual couple with the same economic situation. This year we may top more than seventeen thousand in taxes more than a heterosexual married couple, including the new 2009 three thousand dollar tax upon my health benefits.

So yeah, it is pretty important to us.

-Crissa

shadzar wrote:Gay bashing, telling people to stop worried about who gives it to who up the ass? No. I mean stop worrying about who is or isn't gay, and get back to the real issues, and realize it isn't your business or concern who is gay or not. They have a right to exist just as everyone else. But you seem to miss that where I called out that they need to drop the gay anything as if it matters, and get back to things important to everyone, unless they are so afraid of being propositioned by someone of the same sex.

Learn to read. But like everything else, the word gay for many means stop thinking about anything else and focus on it. Stop everything you are doing and stare at the two guys in the room holding hands. Instead of worrying about who someone else is fucking, worry more about doing your job right, which is governing the country and making it a decent place for ALL to live, not just the hetero homophobes form the red states.

You know, it really would be nice if this country could stop caring about who fucks whom, if we could drop the discussion because everybody was treated the same, if we had an environment where we could focus our thought and energy elsewhere.

But, you know, there's that whole pesky "gay couples aren't treated the same as hetero couples" thing that just makes a cluster fuck out of the idea of not caring.

Maybe you prefer all those damn queers stay in the closet and shut the fuck up. Me? I'd like my gay friends to be able to get the same rights and protections as my wife and me. Nothing more, mind you, but also nothing less.

Crissa wrote:

tzor wrote:No, Frank, that is not the reason. The biggest problem is that all of his “issues” are either outright lies or deliberately stuck in limbo because of his desire or his incompetence. The only thing that Barack Obama is good at is being a Snake Oil Salesman / Chicago Politician. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

You ever notice none of this is actually sourced?

Holy crap, where the news in this thread? It's just been a whole page of name calling against the current Administration.

Pretty much. It's basically "Tzor and Shadzar Go To Teabagger Crazy Town". It's like talking to a dining room table.

Zherog wrote:

shadzar wrote:Gay bashing, telling people to stop worried about who gives it to who up the ass? No. I mean stop worrying about who is or isn't gay, and get back to the real issues, and realize it isn't your business or concern who is gay or not. They have a right to exist just as everyone else. But you seem to miss that where I called out that they need to drop the gay anything as if it matters, and get back to things important to everyone, unless they are so afraid of being propositioned by someone of the same sex.

Learn to read. But like everything else, the word gay for many means stop thinking about anything else and focus on it. Stop everything you are doing and stare at the two guys in the room holding hands. Instead of worrying about who someone else is fucking, worry more about doing your job right, which is governing the country and making it a decent place for ALL to live, not just the hetero homophobes form the red states.

You know, it really would be nice if this country could stop caring about who fucks whom, if we could drop the discussion because everybody was treated the same, if we had an environment where we could focus our thought and energy elsewhere.

But, you know, there's that whole pesky "gay couples aren't treated the same as hetero couples" thing that just makes a cluster fuck out of the idea of not caring.

Maybe you prefer all those damn queers stay in the closet and shut the fuck up. Me? I'd like my gay friends to be able to get the same rights and protections as my wife and me. Nothing more, mind you, but also nothing less.

Zherog you of all people not reading?

I said the legislators need to get over the gay issues, and get on to real things to fight over, because they don't have any say in who is gay or not. I mean it is like women having the right to vote. Stop bitching about it and do it already because you aren't going to win fighting against, nor should you try to.

WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!

On a lighter side, but still not good news. Scott Rouse has left WotC.

On a very light side:
M&Ms has been doing custom prints for, what, a year or so? You can get your own message and all that.

Well now they're doing pictures. Like, individually on the M&MS.

my first thought: Transient symbol yellow M&Ms:


second thought: (which works even better with their "shimmer" collection)
D&D coinage. They have "Shimmer" gold and platinum, and you can use grey and, say, orange, for silver and copper pieces. You could do up a simple picture that would represent each piece, and have them printed on M&Ms as a cute little game snack or something.

Hell, have mook pictures printed on them and use them as tokens, players get to eat what they kill.

Prak_Anima wrote: Hell, have mook pictures printed on them and use them as tokens, players get to eat what they kill.

Don't do that for 4E or you'll starve to death.

good to know, Koumei